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Oldtimer Posts: 4471 07/21/2008 7:06 AM	Tags : None I'm pretty sure, based on my temps and cramps that AF will arrive today. In some respects I'm happy because that means I can get started on the Clomid, but I'm a little concerned because that's a pretty short LP. When we TTC #1, I had really long cycles, with late O, but I always had a consistant 13-14 day LP. Now this cycle will only be 9 or possible 10 (I suspect I may have O'd a day earlier) days. This is usually due to low progesterone? I was prescribed the Clomid to make me O at a more "normal" time, but will it help with the prog. (short LP) problem too? Thanks! Last Edited By: gkmt50 07/26/2008 12:04 PM. Edited 1 time.
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gkmt50		#1	[url]	[-]
Conception & So Much More ADMIN Titanium Member Over 40,000 posts !!! Oldtimer Posts: 46298 07/21/2008 8:24 AM Keeper of the Cheerios! Find me @ cs.yuku.com!	Ok, this is sort of too much info LOL but not in a disgusting personal way Luteal phase is sort of governed by the length of time it takes for the corpus luteum (the follicle from which the egg popped out) to putter out. And the corpus luteum produces the progesterone... so if you have a weak ovulation your c.l. will putter out faster and you have the short LP. Hope that makes sense. Now I'm not really sure why B6 helps lengthen it, but you can try that for the upcoming cycle (even with the Clomid) And well I guess that is the scientific or theoretical part, but I have had a short LP on injectables w/ trigger shot and being on progesterone supps, so I don't have any explanation for that. Hope that helps but re-reading that it sounds like I may have confused you more. .........................................
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jrsgirl		#2	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 4471 07/21/2008 11:20 AM	Thanks Toni! That makes sense. Well, if the Clomid helps me to have a stronger ovulation, hopefully that will help if I'm now having an LP issue as well... and I will look into taking the B6 as well. Thanks! Wendy
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jabc123		#3	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 8658 07/21/2008 3:45 PM Member	Wendy-I think I am having the same issue. My cycles have been shorter than normal and I am thinking that my lp is only about 9 or 10 days. I am concerned because when I got preggo with Sammy my cycles were very normal and my lp around 12 days. It still took 9 months. I feel like this is one more thing standing in my way. I am going to try the b6 also! Sammy 8/24/06
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Cadyro		#4	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 3203 07/21/2008 5:17 PM Seth's Momma	B6 will def help, but my RE said they do not worry about it if your LP is at least 10 days, that should be enough time for the egg to implant. Shorter than that there is the chance it ill shed before implantation can occur. I also have a shorter LP, I take Femaprim for it, it has B6 and Chastetreeberry in it. Mellissa 33, Adam 33 DS Seth David, Furbabies Ro & Cady TTC #1 since 04/03 First Round Clomid 04/05-Success! BFP 05/05, DS Born 12/19/05 TTC #2 since 02/07 First Round Clomid 07/07-Failed Second Round Clomid 08/07-Failed Third Round Clomid 09/07-Failed Fourth Round Clomid 10/07-Failed Fifth Round Clomid 11/07-Failed Sixth Round Clomid 12/07-Failed Going Herbal for her(Chastetreeberry, Dong Quai, Vitamin B6) for him (Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Selenium) since 01/08 Click on Seth's Blinkie to learn all about him!
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jabc123		#5	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 8658 07/21/2008 7:12 PM Member	Does anyone know the dosage of b-6 to take? I know my prenatal vitamin has a small amt. in it. Sammy 8/24/06
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jrsgirl		#6	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 4471 07/21/2008 7:19 PM	I found this doing a google search: The RDA or DV of B6 is extremely low- only a couple of milligrams. For this reason, most women assume they're getting plenty with their multiple or prenatal vitamin. However, the dosage typically needed to correct LPD is between 50 mg and 300 mg daily. I would advise starting out with an additional 50 for an entire cycle (start supplementing as soon as you get your period and don't forget to chart or use OPKs through the cycle to see if the LP changes). If the luteal phase does not change, or does not change enough, increase another 50 or 100 for each additional cycle until correction is seen. I don't know anyone who has had to take more than 300 mg- most see a radical change under 200. Is there a concern about too much B6? B6 is not a vitamin prone to overdose- it is water-soluble and the excess will simply be secreted in the urine. Women who are establishing breastfeeding may want to keep their levels lower, since prolactin is also the hormone that controls milk production, but I have taken an extra 50 mg daily with no adverse affect on milk supply. But the average woman who is trying to conceive should have no problem with the short-term supplementation I am talking about here. Wendy
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Cadyro		#7	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 3203 07/21/2008 8:19 PM Seth's Momma	I will mention to watch the dosage. I was taking a regular B6 and my Femaprim and the prenatal, and I was getting TREMENDOUS headaches. I finally figured out it was from this, and I cut back to the prenatal and the femaprim and that was fine. Mellissa 33, Adam 33 DS Seth David, Furbabies Ro & Cady TTC #1 since 04/03 First Round Clomid 04/05-Success! BFP 05/05, DS Born 12/19/05 TTC #2 since 02/07 First Round Clomid 07/07-Failed Second Round Clomid 08/07-Failed Third Round Clomid 09/07-Failed Fourth Round Clomid 10/07-Failed Fifth Round Clomid 11/07-Failed Sixth Round Clomid 12/07-Failed Going Herbal for her(Chastetreeberry, Dong Quai, Vitamin B6) for him (Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Selenium) since 01/08 Click on Seth's Blinkie to learn all about him!
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gkmt50		#8	[url]	[-]
Conception & So Much More ADMIN Titanium Member Over 40,000 posts !!! Oldtimer Posts: 46298 07/22/2008 1:45 AM Keeper of the Cheerios! Find me @ cs.yuku.com!	Wendy, thanks for that info! I never knew that about b6/prolactin. In fact, it makes perfect sense since prolactin can weaken ovulation (so extra B6 would suppress prolactin)... makes me wonder if I was on b6 when b/f Gabrielle (and why maybe we had some supply issues!) Very cool, thank you again for filling in that blank! I am just so excited and will be buying more B6 now for next month! .........................................
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jrsgirl		#9	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 4471 07/22/2008 8:01 AM	Well, she hasn't shown yet, so maybe my LP won't be quite as bad as I thought.... Wendy
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gkmt50		#10	[url]	[-]
Conception & So Much More ADMIN Titanium Member Over 40,000 posts !!! Oldtimer Posts: 46298 07/22/2008 12:02 PM Keeper of the Cheerios! Find me @ cs.yuku.com!	!!! .........................................
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LPN2B		#11	[url]	[-]
Mod I can help you! Oldtimer Posts: 8499 07/22/2008 12:06 PM Jaden & Carter's Mommy & now an RN!
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jrsgirl		#12	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 4471 07/22/2008 12:59 PM	no, girls, she's definitely coming! Unless its another immaculate conception (so to speak!) Not a chance in the world this cycle... which is fine - our plan was to start in August, so the timing will be perfect! Wendy
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jabc123		#13	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 8658 07/22/2008 6:55 PM Member	Thanks for the b6 info!!! Sammy 8/24/06
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AmyLourene		#14	[url]	[-]
Oldtimer Posts: 2533 07/22/2008 8:25 PM	The B6 is always worth a try. It didn't work for me, and I did take the clomid for my last two babies. The clomid made me O about 3-4 days earlier, which made my LP usually about 12 days. The first time taking the clomid, it took me 4 rounds of only the 50 mg. And, the second time, I only took one round of 50 mg. Our first guy, I got pregnant a month after stopping birth control. So, I think that is why I didn't have any issue the first time around.
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